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		<title>By: alwayshope</title>
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		<dc:creator>alwayshope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 06:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buckywonder
Um, that third party thing sure worked out well in 2000, didn't it?
I have a real warm place in my heart for Nader. Thanks Ralph, for the Bush administration.
My guy, Kucinich, is not going to be president. I have to make a new choice.
I have respect for the greens but the next president will be either an R or a D. 
And yes, the DLC can be disappointing, even maddening but we have got to get these criminals out of office before we can do anything about holding them responsible for their crimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buckywonder<br />
Um, that third party thing sure worked out well in 2000, didn&#8217;t it?<br />
I have a real warm place in my heart for Nader. Thanks Ralph, for the Bush administration.<br />
My guy, Kucinich, is not going to be president. I have to make a new choice.<br />
I have respect for the greens but the next president will be either an R or a D.<br />
And yes, the DLC can be disappointing, even maddening but we have got to get these criminals out of office before we can do anything about holding them responsible for their crimes.</p>
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		<title>By: crowmd</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 23:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'll tell you what makes this campaign sad,and scary. The fact that all you get every day now for over a year!! Whenever you turn on ANY NEWS CHANNEL you get headlines like " HILLARY SNUBS BLACK MAN!!" or "OBAMA LOOKS AT WHITE WOMAN!!" 
 It's the same crap day after day,but you have to ask yourself,why do you hardly ever hear any mudslinging about what the republicans are doing? And believe me they are doing it too each other just watch one of there local commercials.
  Hmm,you think maybe it's because our corporate owned media which is basically ALL OWNED by just 4 major corporations are run by republicans.If you want to get an informed opinion on any candidate.Do your home-work,go to any of the government web-sites and find out how the candidates voted on which laws and then find out why! they voted that way.
 Time to turn off the tv and put down the newspaper and get informed. Hell,you can even read the blogs and read the foreign press online and see what they have to say but beware,guys like Rupert Merdoch owns foreign newspapers and radio stations also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll tell you what makes this campaign sad,and scary. The fact that all you get every day now for over a year!! Whenever you turn on ANY NEWS CHANNEL you get headlines like &#8221; HILLARY SNUBS BLACK MAN!!&#8221; or &#8220;OBAMA LOOKS AT WHITE WOMAN!!&#8221;<br />
 It&#8217;s the same crap day after day,but you have to ask yourself,why do you hardly ever hear any mudslinging about what the republicans are doing? And believe me they are doing it too each other just watch one of there local commercials.<br />
  Hmm,you think maybe it&#8217;s because our corporate owned media which is basically ALL OWNED by just 4 major corporations are run by republicans.If you want to get an informed opinion on any candidate.Do your home-work,go to any of the government web-sites and find out how the candidates voted on which laws and then find out why! they voted that way.<br />
 Time to turn off the tv and put down the newspaper and get informed. Hell,you can even read the blogs and read the foreign press online and see what they have to say but beware,guys like Rupert Merdoch owns foreign newspapers and radio stations also.</p>
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		<title>By: Buckywunder</title>
		<link>https://lastchancedemocracycafe.com/?p=1221#comment-43758</link>
		<dc:creator>Buckywunder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"I’ll vote for whoever wins the nomination and I’m not going to hold my nose if it’s Hillary or Obama, I’m going to proudly vote for a Democrat because I’m a Democrat, damn it." 

Um, that's the problem right there. We have a Democrat here who doesn't even recognize the third (or fourth) candidates in the race for the party nomination who would actually fight for them. 

As a Green Party member who swings Dem when they have a non-DLC candidate, I am more and more disgusted with the national party. It is completely controlled by Bob Shrum-Terry McCauliffe-James Carville types with ties to corporate donors who pull the strings -- and NOTHING changes! Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are pawns.

[I dare Clinton supporters to watch "Our Brand Is Crisis" where the James Carville, et. al. consultant group goes down to Bolivia to run the "status quo" candidate's campaign based completely on marketing and focus groups. Democracy is an afterthought. While their candidate just barely won, he screwed up the country so bad that he had to resign and a populist, worker took over and is now righting the ship along with Chavez in Venezuela and Lula in Brazil.]

No one is held in contempt, no one is going to jail, no one is being impeached, no one has to face any, ANY responsibility for driving the rig known as the United States of America into the ditch. Now, granted this has been going on since the Carter administration (the Trilateral Commission? Anybody?), but I keep thinking that people will wake up to what's going on. Right? 

Wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’ll vote for whoever wins the nomination and I’m not going to hold my nose if it’s Hillary or Obama, I’m going to proudly vote for a Democrat because I’m a Democrat, damn it.&#8221; </p>
<p>Um, that&#8217;s the problem right there. We have a Democrat here who doesn&#8217;t even recognize the third (or fourth) candidates in the race for the party nomination who would actually fight for them. </p>
<p>As a Green Party member who swings Dem when they have a non-DLC candidate, I am more and more disgusted with the national party. It is completely controlled by Bob Shrum-Terry McCauliffe-James Carville types with ties to corporate donors who pull the strings &#8212; and NOTHING changes! Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are pawns.</p>
<p>[I dare Clinton supporters to watch "Our Brand Is Crisis" where the James Carville, et. al. consultant group goes down to Bolivia to run the "status quo" candidate's campaign based completely on marketing and focus groups. Democracy is an afterthought. While their candidate just barely won, he screwed up the country so bad that he had to resign and a populist, worker took over and is now righting the ship along with Chavez in Venezuela and Lula in Brazil.]</p>
<p>No one is held in contempt, no one is going to jail, no one is being impeached, no one has to face any, ANY responsibility for driving the rig known as the United States of America into the ditch. Now, granted this has been going on since the Carter administration (the Trilateral Commission? Anybody?), but I keep thinking that people will wake up to what&#8217;s going on. Right? </p>
<p>Wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: alwayshope</title>
		<link>https://lastchancedemocracycafe.com/?p=1221#comment-43750</link>
		<dc:creator>alwayshope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 20:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We should remember that when we fight among ourselves, when we denigrate our candidates, when we doubt the resolve of our party and fear a loss, we play into the hands of the GOP. They have gained unprecedented power by being united. We risk losing only if we become single-issue, radical and uncompromising, in other words, like them. Our unity comes from purpose, not fear of division but we need to fear division.
I think it was Will Rogers who said. "I don't belong to any organized political party! I'm a Democrat."
Our diversity has been a strong point but there comes a time when we must declare ourselves as loyal to something we all have in common: the knowledge that we must defeat the republicans.
This is just a preview of a very nasty race to come. 
I'll vote for whoever wins the nomination and I'm not going to hold my nose if it's Hillary or Obama, I'm going to proudly vote for a Democrat because I'm a Democrat, damn it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should remember that when we fight among ourselves, when we denigrate our candidates, when we doubt the resolve of our party and fear a loss, we play into the hands of the GOP. They have gained unprecedented power by being united. We risk losing only if we become single-issue, radical and uncompromising, in other words, like them. Our unity comes from purpose, not fear of division but we need to fear division.<br />
I think it was Will Rogers who said. &#8220;I don&#8217;t belong to any organized political party! I&#8217;m a Democrat.&#8221;<br />
Our diversity has been a strong point but there comes a time when we must declare ourselves as loyal to something we all have in common: the knowledge that we must defeat the republicans.<br />
This is just a preview of a very nasty race to come.<br />
I&#8217;ll vote for whoever wins the nomination and I&#8217;m not going to hold my nose if it&#8217;s Hillary or Obama, I&#8217;m going to proudly vote for a Democrat because I&#8217;m a Democrat, damn it.</p>
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		<title>By: Enobie</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 19:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You're so right, Marshalldoc, "We no longer have time for 'politics as usual.'” Our economy is about to hit the wall, energy is in crisis, the military-industrial complex has become the all-powerful force Ike warned us of---the problems are legion and mostly caused by our (meaning the USA) complacency, ineptness and chauvinism. There are solutions, but they will probably require more political will than we can muster. 

Read “The Long Emergency” and the rest of Kunstler’s writings for a taste of grim reality. Watch “What a way to go, life at the end of Empire” for a frightening wake up call. I’m not optimistic that any candidate from either party will be able to stem the inevitable. As Chuck replied above, the “Ice 9” is loose already and unless we, as a society, really start to understand that, I fear we’re doomed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re so right, Marshalldoc, &#8220;We no longer have time for &#8216;politics as usual.&#8217;” Our economy is about to hit the wall, energy is in crisis, the military-industrial complex has become the all-powerful force Ike warned us of&#8212;the problems are legion and mostly caused by our (meaning the USA) complacency, ineptness and chauvinism. There are solutions, but they will probably require more political will than we can muster. </p>
<p>Read “The Long Emergency” and the rest of Kunstler’s writings for a taste of grim reality. Watch “What a way to go, life at the end of Empire” for a frightening wake up call. I’m not optimistic that any candidate from either party will be able to stem the inevitable. As Chuck replied above, the “Ice 9” is loose already and unless we, as a society, really start to understand that, I fear we’re doomed.</p>
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		<title>By: Marshalldoc</title>
		<link>https://lastchancedemocracycafe.com/?p=1221#comment-43744</link>
		<dc:creator>Marshalldoc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 18:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The disturbing thing about this thread is the disconnect between the immediacy of the issues we face in the upcoming election and the likelihood that any of the top 3 Democratic candidates will have the personal commitment to stand strong and take the unpopular, but absolutely necessary, actions needed to attempt and reverse the course of our ‘ship of state’.

Clinton &#38; Obama are, essentially, two sides of the same coin.  They are old-school D.C. politics as usual and their willingness to indulge in old-school political mud-slinging as usual confirms it.  They, neither of them, made the effort to attend the global warming debate or make it a central issue in their public campaigns… too likely to off-put the middle of the road to right-wing voters who still feel ‘the science isn’t in on global warming’ whom they hope to co-opt.  Similarly, they’ve been less than straightforward regarding their commitment to end U.S. involvement in Iraq and there’s been no talk from them regarding the need to disconnect the military-industrial-congressional complex from the business of running our country.  Much the same can be said of Edwards but with less emphasis.

There’s no question that, in usual times - such as the 80’s &#38; 90’s - the differences between Democratic candidates and Repug candidates were such that the differences between them amounted to highly significant issues (especially on the issues of civil rights and entitlements).

We are faced with the issue of continuing to fund a disastrous war (both for the Iraqis, the American dead, wounded, and their families, and for the American economy as well) we can no longer afford and the issue of making the radical changes in our economy, living standards, and energy policy needed to make as timely as humanly possible approach to the threats of global warming.

I submit that business as usual, politics as usual, candidates regardless of their differences on other, lesser (but in other times truly consequential) issues, will be inadequate to deal with the overriding challenges facing us and, consequently, they are all essentially the same.  Their needs to make political allies, accept corporate funds, and the compromises necessary to ‘achieve consensus’ will prevent any effective address to the issues at hand.

Thus, the only candidate willing to do those necessary things and take his issue to the people for their endorsement in the face of unwilling, unyielding, congresspeople, corporations, and the defense establishment is Dennis Kucinich.  Although he’s been utterly marginalized by the press, the DLC, and the rest of the mainstream, he is the only candidate who is able to pursue the needed policies with the necessary vigor.

We no longer have time for “politics as usual”.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The disturbing thing about this thread is the disconnect between the immediacy of the issues we face in the upcoming election and the likelihood that any of the top 3 Democratic candidates will have the personal commitment to stand strong and take the unpopular, but absolutely necessary, actions needed to attempt and reverse the course of our ‘ship of state’.</p>
<p>Clinton &amp; Obama are, essentially, two sides of the same coin.  They are old-school D.C. politics as usual and their willingness to indulge in old-school political mud-slinging as usual confirms it.  They, neither of them, made the effort to attend the global warming debate or make it a central issue in their public campaigns… too likely to off-put the middle of the road to right-wing voters who still feel ‘the science isn’t in on global warming’ whom they hope to co-opt.  Similarly, they’ve been less than straightforward regarding their commitment to end U.S. involvement in Iraq and there’s been no talk from them regarding the need to disconnect the military-industrial-congressional complex from the business of running our country.  Much the same can be said of Edwards but with less emphasis.</p>
<p>There’s no question that, in usual times - such as the 80’s &amp; 90’s - the differences between Democratic candidates and Repug candidates were such that the differences between them amounted to highly significant issues (especially on the issues of civil rights and entitlements).</p>
<p>We are faced with the issue of continuing to fund a disastrous war (both for the Iraqis, the American dead, wounded, and their families, and for the American economy as well) we can no longer afford and the issue of making the radical changes in our economy, living standards, and energy policy needed to make as timely as humanly possible approach to the threats of global warming.</p>
<p>I submit that business as usual, politics as usual, candidates regardless of their differences on other, lesser (but in other times truly consequential) issues, will be inadequate to deal with the overriding challenges facing us and, consequently, they are all essentially the same.  Their needs to make political allies, accept corporate funds, and the compromises necessary to ‘achieve consensus’ will prevent any effective address to the issues at hand.</p>
<p>Thus, the only candidate willing to do those necessary things and take his issue to the people for their endorsement in the face of unwilling, unyielding, congresspeople, corporations, and the defense establishment is Dennis Kucinich.  Although he’s been utterly marginalized by the press, the DLC, and the rest of the mainstream, he is the only candidate who is able to pursue the needed policies with the necessary vigor.</p>
<p>We no longer have time for “politics as usual”.</p>
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		<title>By: beachbum08</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 15:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My husband &#38; I have been talking about this, even before this last debate.  Feel that the media leads the candidates into this via manner in which questions are asked, stories about their "toughness" etc.  But the candidates do not have to play into the hands of the media, the Republilcans, and everyone else who benefits from maintaining status quo.  The correct response to the provocative questions and stories is the main theme of this letter:  "This 2008 election isn't about me as a candidate.  It is about America and making sure that we continue to assure that what makes America great, unique, and the best it can be is to elect a candidate who believes in America as a beacon of freedom and equality for all."  This letter should be sent to Clinton, Edwards, and Obama over and over again in hopes that some bright, insightful staffer will make sure that each candidate sees it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband &amp; I have been talking about this, even before this last debate.  Feel that the media leads the candidates into this via manner in which questions are asked, stories about their &#8220;toughness&#8221; etc.  But the candidates do not have to play into the hands of the media, the Republilcans, and everyone else who benefits from maintaining status quo.  The correct response to the provocative questions and stories is the main theme of this letter:  &#8220;This 2008 election isn&#8217;t about me as a candidate.  It is about America and making sure that we continue to assure that what makes America great, unique, and the best it can be is to elect a candidate who believes in America as a beacon of freedom and equality for all.&#8221;  This letter should be sent to Clinton, Edwards, and Obama over and over again in hopes that some bright, insightful staffer will make sure that each candidate sees it.</p>
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		<title>By: junemcg</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At this moment, I am so angry with HillBilly.  I have decided that, should they win the nomination, I will not vote for them.  I know this is helping the repugs win but I can not support this type of behavior.  Will somone out there PLEASE tell Bill to go home and shut up?  HillBill was right when she said they (Obama and Clinton) have strong spouses speaking for them but Michelle has NEVER been mean and nasty.  She is calm and stays on message about what Barack will accomplish for US.  She is not his attack dog like Bill is Hillarys.  Bill, do we have to remind you of how you went on record as lying?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At this moment, I am so angry with HillBilly.  I have decided that, should they win the nomination, I will not vote for them.  I know this is helping the repugs win but I can not support this type of behavior.  Will somone out there PLEASE tell Bill to go home and shut up?  HillBill was right when she said they (Obama and Clinton) have strong spouses speaking for them but Michelle has NEVER been mean and nasty.  She is calm and stays on message about what Barack will accomplish for US.  She is not his attack dog like Bill is Hillarys.  Bill, do we have to remind you of how you went on record as lying?</p>
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		<title>By: doni76</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 09:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Listen guys, I am not a political genius nor am I a junky. But I do care about this country and where do we go from here. Look I understand your anger but this election is way too important to be too negative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Listen guys, I am not a political genius nor am I a junky. But I do care about this country and where do we go from here. Look I understand your anger but this election is way too important to be too negative.</p>
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		<title>By: RJHall</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 09:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, though, to borrow from Captain Renault in the movie Casablanca, the Democratic candidates, even at their best, just say "I am shocked, shocked, that there's gambling going on here!"  I mean, not only would the points on the list probably happen if a Republican were the next president, but also almost if not every one of the points on that list would STILL happen if one of the Democrats were the next president too, even if they occasionally pretend shock and speak out against some of them sometimes.  War without end in Iraq is obvious for Hillary Clinton and I wouldn't be surprised if it happened for the others who now make promises (about pulling out some troops though not all military bases) to us too, since it is just too profitable for their powerbrokers for them to want to REALLY stop it just yet.  None of the candidates even say they want to take war with Iran or anyone else off the table.  None of the candidates really want to actually DO anything to REALLY end economic or political inequality.  Even Al Gore, who negotiated the laughably ineffective Kyoto Protocol with its market-based mechanisms for emissions trading and carbon sinks that have not only not encouraged any polluter in the world to stop polluting but have actually allowed them to pollute more, wouldn't actually DO anything that would REALLY help prevent climate catastrophes, since for him no less than the Democratic candidates, all solutions to environmental crisis that don't make the rich richer and the poor poorer really are off the table.  Abortion is almost unavailable in practice for most women in the U.S. anyway, whether or not Roe is explicitly overruled.  Even on the Supreme Court, where it is obvious that Republican presidents would nominate more radical Scalia-style right wing judicial activists to replace the aging non-radical right wing justices, I'm not so sure anymore that Democratic presidents would do much better.  I mean, Breyer and Ginsburg seem "liberal" compared to Scalia, but even 15 years ago they were as far left as Bill Clinton was able (and willing) to go, and these days probably even they wouldn't be confirmed; there will certainly be no more Brennans or Thurgood Marshalls on the Supreme Court now or in the near future no matter who the president is.  As Jeffrey Toobin remarked in his recent book "The Nine", 20 years ago a prospective Supreme Court justice (Bork) was rejected because he was too far right, but under today's political climate another prospective Supreme Court justice (Harriet Miers) had to withdraw her name because she couldn't convince the political and religious powerbrokers that she was far enough to the right.  So actually, I kind of suspect the list might be a good prediction for what will happen in the next few years no matter which face appears at the top of the U.S. government.  Any changes would be matters of style, not substance: at future world climate conferences, maybe the E.U. and the U.S. would no longer play "good cop - bad cop" with the future of the planet if a Democrat were president of the U.S., but they would probably find some other show to perform to underline the same result of no real change or even progress.  See, I can be cynical sometimes too!  Move over, Chuck!  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, though, to borrow from Captain Renault in the movie Casablanca, the Democratic candidates, even at their best, just say &#8220;I am shocked, shocked, that there&#8217;s gambling going on here!&#8221;  I mean, not only would the points on the list probably happen if a Republican were the next president, but also almost if not every one of the points on that list would STILL happen if one of the Democrats were the next president too, even if they occasionally pretend shock and speak out against some of them sometimes.  War without end in Iraq is obvious for Hillary Clinton and I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if it happened for the others who now make promises (about pulling out some troops though not all military bases) to us too, since it is just too profitable for their powerbrokers for them to want to REALLY stop it just yet.  None of the candidates even say they want to take war with Iran or anyone else off the table.  None of the candidates really want to actually DO anything to REALLY end economic or political inequality.  Even Al Gore, who negotiated the laughably ineffective Kyoto Protocol with its market-based mechanisms for emissions trading and carbon sinks that have not only not encouraged any polluter in the world to stop polluting but have actually allowed them to pollute more, wouldn&#8217;t actually DO anything that would REALLY help prevent climate catastrophes, since for him no less than the Democratic candidates, all solutions to environmental crisis that don&#8217;t make the rich richer and the poor poorer really are off the table.  Abortion is almost unavailable in practice for most women in the U.S. anyway, whether or not Roe is explicitly overruled.  Even on the Supreme Court, where it is obvious that Republican presidents would nominate more radical Scalia-style right wing judicial activists to replace the aging non-radical right wing justices, I&#8217;m not so sure anymore that Democratic presidents would do much better.  I mean, Breyer and Ginsburg seem &#8220;liberal&#8221; compared to Scalia, but even 15 years ago they were as far left as Bill Clinton was able (and willing) to go, and these days probably even they wouldn&#8217;t be confirmed; there will certainly be no more Brennans or Thurgood Marshalls on the Supreme Court now or in the near future no matter who the president is.  As Jeffrey Toobin remarked in his recent book &#8220;The Nine&#8221;, 20 years ago a prospective Supreme Court justice (Bork) was rejected because he was too far right, but under today&#8217;s political climate another prospective Supreme Court justice (Harriet Miers) had to withdraw her name because she couldn&#8217;t convince the political and religious powerbrokers that she was far enough to the right.  So actually, I kind of suspect the list might be a good prediction for what will happen in the next few years no matter which face appears at the top of the U.S. government.  Any changes would be matters of style, not substance: at future world climate conferences, maybe the E.U. and the U.S. would no longer play &#8220;good cop - bad cop&#8221; with the future of the planet if a Democrat were president of the U.S., but they would probably find some other show to perform to underline the same result of no real change or even progress.  See, I can be cynical sometimes too!  Move over, Chuck!  <img src='/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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