Comments on: How about an “open book test” debate https://lastchancedemocracycafe.com/?p=1351 Home of the Liberal Burger Thu, 18 Sep 2008 13:23:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: alwayshope https://lastchancedemocracycafe.com/?p=1351#comment-48568 alwayshope Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:37:52 +0000 https://lastchancedemocracycafe.com/?p=1351#comment-48568 I hope I remember to take my voter ID with me Tuesday! I'll know everyone when I get to the church to vote and they'll know me, but I wonder if they'll ask for my ID this time? I have a neighbor who is 92 and has never had a driver's license in her life. This law may harm her right to vote and they say (the SC) that we need a case that shows harm to a voter. She'd be perfect.......if she wasn't a republican! I may call her and offer her a ride anyway just to see if they insist on an ID from her. I hope I remember to take my voter ID with me Tuesday!
I’ll know everyone when I get to the church to vote and they’ll know me, but I wonder if they’ll ask for my ID this time? I have a neighbor who is 92 and has never had a driver’s license in her life. This law may harm her right to vote and they say (the SC) that we need a case that shows harm to a voter.
She’d be perfect…….if she wasn’t a republican! I may call her and offer her a ride anyway just to see if they insist on an ID from her.

]]> By: alwayshope https://lastchancedemocracycafe.com/?p=1351#comment-48559 alwayshope Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:02:45 +0000 https://lastchancedemocracycafe.com/?p=1351#comment-48559 Chuck, "I'll meet you 'round the bend, my friend, where hearts can heal and souls can mend." It breaks my heart to think about Riverbend. I haven't had anything to say lately. I read some of the comments at Huffington and Buzzflash and I'm just numb. We are keeping Rush gleeful with the nasty remarks about Clinton and Obama. Today Buzzflash is blaming Clinton for Rev. Wright's performance. Excuse me, but nobody could MAKE him act like George Jefferson, that cocky little question and answer session was all on him. And while we fight and place blame and bicker and condemn.........they make plans to steal votes, to pollute and destroy and torture and to bomb Iran. This should be an exciting time for democrats, new voters, an involved public, states like mine that actually matter this time, truth leaking out about torture and corruption and with it a chance to learn more truth. But it isn't exciting, it's depressing. We have chosen to snipe at each other instead of gathering our strength for the tremendous challenges ahead. I'm not going along with it. I will gladly vote for either of our fine candidates. I may be leaning toward one but I have no bad feelings about the other. I'm not playing into the hands of Rush and O'Lielly and the rest by dissing members of my party. I'm sick of it. I'm more worried about saving Democracy and America than I am about which Clinton or Obama supportor said something stupid. I just want to get this over with so our "hearts can heal" and we can come together this fall and take back our government from Darth Cheney. I hope sites like buzzflash will be more helpful this fall than they have been through this nomination process. Their vitriol against Clinton is devisive and only helps McCain. I used to buy my books from them and always included a donation but I've bought my last two books from Amazon because of the mean comments and tone of Buzzflash. They are asking for money right now so maybe I'm not alone. Maybe they should consider that some of us liberals just don't like their "with us or against us" message even if we support Obama. I'm grateful for this little cafe where I can say what I feel without ridicule, where we can gripe about our Democratic (we've got to find a way to lose) Party and where the posts are always more thoughtful than hateful. And, of course, for the beer............. Set em up, Steve. I'm buying. (yes, even Chuck's first twelve-pack) Chuck,
“I’ll meet you ’round the bend, my friend, where hearts can heal and souls can mend.” It breaks my heart to think about Riverbend.

I haven’t had anything to say lately. I read some of the comments at Huffington and Buzzflash and I’m just numb. We are keeping Rush gleeful with the nasty remarks about Clinton and Obama. Today Buzzflash is blaming Clinton for Rev. Wright’s performance. Excuse me, but nobody could MAKE him act like George Jefferson, that cocky little question and answer session was all on him. And while we fight and place blame and bicker and condemn………they make plans to steal votes, to pollute and destroy and torture and to bomb Iran.
This should be an exciting time for democrats, new voters, an involved public, states like mine that actually matter this time, truth leaking out about torture and corruption and with it a chance to learn more truth. But it isn’t exciting, it’s depressing. We have chosen to snipe at each other instead of gathering our strength for the tremendous challenges ahead. I’m not going along with it. I will gladly vote for either of our fine candidates. I may be leaning toward one but I have no bad feelings about the other. I’m not playing into the hands of Rush and O’Lielly and the rest by dissing members of my party. I’m sick of it. I’m more worried about saving Democracy and America than I am about which Clinton or Obama supportor said something stupid. I just want to get this over with so our “hearts can heal” and we can come together this fall and take back our government from Darth Cheney.
I hope sites like buzzflash will be more helpful this fall than they have been through this nomination process. Their vitriol against Clinton is devisive and only helps McCain. I used to buy my books from them and always included a donation but I’ve bought my last two books from Amazon because of the mean comments and tone of Buzzflash. They are asking for money right now so maybe I’m not alone. Maybe they should consider that some of us liberals just don’t like their “with us or against us” message even if we support Obama.
I’m grateful for this little cafe where I can say what I feel without ridicule, where we can gripe about our Democratic (we’ve got to find a way to lose) Party and where the posts are always more thoughtful than hateful.
And, of course, for the beer………….
Set em up, Steve. I’m buying. (yes, even Chuck’s first twelve-pack)

]]> By: Chuck https://lastchancedemocracycafe.com/?p=1351#comment-48419 Chuck Tue, 29 Apr 2008 05:27:12 +0000 https://lastchancedemocracycafe.com/?p=1351#comment-48419 I sure do miss RIVERBEND. What has this to do with debates? Nothing! It's just more important than endless chatter between two peas in a pod that means nothing. As Senator Obama said, "I know all her lines and she knows all mine." I sure do miss RIVERBEND.

What has this to do with debates? Nothing! It’s just more important than endless chatter between two peas in a pod that means nothing. As Senator Obama said, “I know all her lines and she knows all mine.”

]]> By: Jello https://lastchancedemocracycafe.com/?p=1351#comment-48394 Jello Tue, 29 Apr 2008 02:27:11 +0000 https://lastchancedemocracycafe.com/?p=1351#comment-48394 Good speech, I agree with you, wholeheartedly. However, it fails to address one problem, as much as we both wish that people and societies are somehow advancing morally to a more perfect future, reality does not reflect this. America is "force fed" false information in a steady stream by the mainstream media, and there is no hope of a free and fair election November. The Democratic party has been splintered successfully into 2 camps, and the likelihood of winning any consensus before general election diminishes everyday. This dream debate could never happen for the simple fact that neither Obama or Clinton could ever possibly agree to speak truth to power. Both are bought and paid for by lobbyists and corporations. I ramble a bit, but I don't think America wants to hear the truth. Whoever wins in November is going to inherit a broken economy, a fearful society, and a 3 trillion dollar war, Godd help them. Cheers, truth can be despair or empowerment. You choose. Good speech, I agree with you, wholeheartedly. However, it fails to address one problem, as much as we both wish that people and societies are somehow advancing morally to a more perfect future, reality does not reflect this. America is “force fed” false information in a steady stream by the mainstream media, and there is no hope of a free and fair election November. The Democratic party has been splintered successfully into 2 camps, and the likelihood of winning any consensus before general election diminishes everyday.
This dream debate could never happen for the simple fact that neither Obama or Clinton could ever possibly agree to speak truth to power. Both are bought and paid for by lobbyists and corporations. I ramble a bit, but I don’t think America wants to hear the truth.
Whoever wins in November is going to inherit a broken economy, a fearful society, and a 3 trillion dollar war, Godd help them.

Cheers, truth can be despair or empowerment.
You choose.

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