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		<title>by: Again</title>
		<link>https://lastchancedemocracycafe.com/?p=157#comment-363</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 07:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Renard 
&lt;blockquote&gt;But no–they actually have a philosophical underpinning to “justify” their actions, to wit: the average citizenry is composed of morons who need an intellectual elite&lt;/blockquote&gt;

that is how aristocrats see it - everywhere and everytime: the elite is the great mastermind, benignly leading the brainless underlings

bodo
&lt;blockquote&gt;Since the Pope’s teaching against capital punishment in Evangelium Vitae was not given ex cathedra, Scalia said, he is not obligated as a Catholic to accept it but only to give it serious consideration.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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&lt;blockquote&gt;When the next contraception, stem cell research or abortion case... because the idea that a fertilized egg should be considred equivalent to a born human being IS an ex cathedra teaching of the Catholic church..&lt;/blockquote&gt;

interesting kind of faith - you can always choose your &quot;sins&quot; and &quot;teachings&quot; like meals in a restaurant...

very useful - i guess, that's the reason why so many powerful people love religion: there is always an argument for or against everything - combine that with Renards post, and you see, why  the &quot;elite&quot; dares to offend our intelligence</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Renard </p>
<blockquote><p>But no–they actually have a philosophical underpinning to “justify” their actions, to wit: the average citizenry is composed of morons who need an intellectual elite</p></blockquote>
<p>that is how aristocrats see it - everywhere and everytime: the elite is the great mastermind, benignly leading the brainless underlings</p>
<p>bodo</p>
<blockquote><p>Since the Pope’s teaching against capital punishment in Evangelium Vitae was not given ex cathedra, Scalia said, he is not obligated as a Catholic to accept it but only to give it serious consideration.</p></blockquote>
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<blockquote><p>When the next contraception, stem cell research or abortion case&#8230; because the idea that a fertilized egg should be considred equivalent to a born human being IS an ex cathedra teaching of the Catholic church..</p></blockquote>
<p>interesting kind of faith - you can always choose your &#8220;sins&#8221; and &#8220;teachings&#8221; like meals in a restaurant&#8230;</p>
<p>very useful - i guess, that&#8217;s the reason why so many powerful people love religion: there is always an argument for or against everything - combine that with Renards post, and you see, why  the &#8220;elite&#8221; dares to offend our intelligence
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		<title>by: bodo</title>
		<link>https://lastchancedemocracycafe.com/?p=157#comment-355</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Mar 2006 17:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Enjoyed your list of bizarre Scalia statements.  Another is in his dissent in Lawrence v Texas.  He was worried about legalizing gay sex.  Among other things he thought it would lead to the legalization of masturbation.  Apparently since his church thinks it is a sin, he assumes it is (and should be)  illegal as well.

He obviously needs to recuse himself in cases where he can't separate his religion from his duty to be an impartial judge.

The April/May issue of Free Inquiry magazine has an article by Paul Kurtz which points out  that &quot;There is a statute of long standing that governs these cases: 28 USC 455(a) states that, 'Any justice, judge, or magistrate in the United States shall disqualify himself in any proceedings in which his impartiality might reasonably be questioned.'&quot; 

The article goes on to tell how Scalia was questioned about his pro death penalty stand at a panel discussion.  &quot;Asked why he favored capital punishment when the Catholic Church opposes it, Scalia replied, 'This doctrine is not one that the Christian church has consistently maintained.'  Since the Pope’s teaching against capital punishment in Evangelium Vitae was not given ex cathedra, Scalia said, he is not obligated as a Catholic to accept it but only to give it serious consideration. 'I have given it careful and thoughtful consideration and rejected it,' Scalia said. 'I do not find the death penalty immoral. I am happy to reach that conclusion because I like my job and I’d rather not resign.'&quot;

When the next contraception, stem cell research or abortion case comes before the Supreme Court, there should be a huge push to get him to recuse himself (or as he himself suggested, resign) because the idea that a fertilized egg should be considred equivalent to a born human being IS an ex cathedra teaching of the Catholic church.

The Catholic Church has ex cathedra rulings on the right to die which Scalia should be binding on Scalia.  So he should also recuse himself on issues dealing with livings wills and euthanasia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enjoyed your list of bizarre Scalia statements.  Another is in his dissent in Lawrence v Texas.  He was worried about legalizing gay sex.  Among other things he thought it would lead to the legalization of masturbation.  Apparently since his church thinks it is a sin, he assumes it is (and should be)  illegal as well.</p>
<p>He obviously needs to recuse himself in cases where he can&#8217;t separate his religion from his duty to be an impartial judge.</p>
<p>The April/May issue of Free Inquiry magazine has an article by Paul Kurtz which points out  that &#8220;There is a statute of long standing that governs these cases: 28 USC 455(a) states that, &#8216;Any justice, judge, or magistrate in the United States shall disqualify himself in any proceedings in which his impartiality might reasonably be questioned.&#8217;&#8221; </p>
<p>The article goes on to tell how Scalia was questioned about his pro death penalty stand at a panel discussion.  &#8220;Asked why he favored capital punishment when the Catholic Church opposes it, Scalia replied, &#8216;This doctrine is not one that the Christian church has consistently maintained.&#8217;  Since the Pope’s teaching against capital punishment in Evangelium Vitae was not given ex cathedra, Scalia said, he is not obligated as a Catholic to accept it but only to give it serious consideration. &#8216;I have given it careful and thoughtful consideration and rejected it,&#8217; Scalia said. &#8216;I do not find the death penalty immoral. I am happy to reach that conclusion because I like my job and I’d rather not resign.&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>When the next contraception, stem cell research or abortion case comes before the Supreme Court, there should be a huge push to get him to recuse himself (or as he himself suggested, resign) because the idea that a fertilized egg should be considred equivalent to a born human being IS an ex cathedra teaching of the Catholic church.</p>
<p>The Catholic Church has ex cathedra rulings on the right to die which Scalia should be binding on Scalia.  So he should also recuse himself on issues dealing with livings wills and euthanasia.
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		<title>by: Renard</title>
		<link>https://lastchancedemocracycafe.com/?p=157#comment-352</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Mar 2006 13:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>FreeDem is right about the Drury book (Leo Strauss and the American Right).  Before reading it (thanks to Buzzflash for getting it on my radar screen) I thought Bush &amp;#38; Co. were just a bunch of greedy opportunists.  But no--they actually have a philosophical underpinning to &quot;justify&quot; their actions, to wit: the average citizenry is composed of morons who need an intellectual elite to provide them with national &quot;myths&quot; that provide social cohesion and unquestioning loyalty to country; meanwhile, the &quot;elite&quot; exercise complete control. We're not talking democracy here, and there is nothing benevolent about their intentions.

Analysis of this situation doesn't easily lend itself to soundbites (the Drury book is a difficult read), but if a way could be found to make this information accessible to the general electorate,  I believe there would be such a level of outrage at the breathtaking arrogance and entitlement displayed by Bush and the Neocon crowd that we would see people taking to the streets in droves (or at least taking action to clean up the election process).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FreeDem is right about the Drury book (Leo Strauss and the American Right).  Before reading it (thanks to Buzzflash for getting it on my radar screen) I thought Bush &amp; Co. were just a bunch of greedy opportunists.  But no&#8211;they actually have a philosophical underpinning to &#8220;justify&#8221; their actions, to wit: the average citizenry is composed of morons who need an intellectual elite to provide them with national &#8220;myths&#8221; that provide social cohesion and unquestioning loyalty to country; meanwhile, the &#8220;elite&#8221; exercise complete control. We&#8217;re not talking democracy here, and there is nothing benevolent about their intentions.</p>
<p>Analysis of this situation doesn&#8217;t easily lend itself to soundbites (the Drury book is a difficult read), but if a way could be found to make this information accessible to the general electorate,  I believe there would be such a level of outrage at the breathtaking arrogance and entitlement displayed by Bush and the Neocon crowd that we would see people taking to the streets in droves (or at least taking action to clean up the election process).
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		<title>by: Again</title>
		<link>https://lastchancedemocracycafe.com/?p=157#comment-351</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Mar 2006 11:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;[Scalia] I had a son on that battlefield and they were shooting at my son&lt;/blockquote&gt;

that battlefield - Iraq? That battlefield - self-made? Did Scalia ever think about the german mothers and fathers who had lost their sons in the Great Wars - and what HE says about &quot;that battlefields&quot; and &quot;that sons&quot; and the rights of &quot;that people&quot; to talk about justice?

first you sell justice, then you sell democracy, then you sell peace - then you sell yourself 

or is it: first you lose peace and then you lose the ones you love...?

&lt;i&gt;We continued to watch the various scenes of grief, anger, frustration and every once in a while, an almost tangible relief as someone left the morgue having not found what they dreaded most to find- eyes watery from the smell, the step slightly lighter than when they went in, having been given a temporary reprieve from the worry of claiming a loved one from the morgue…&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://riverbendblog.blogspot.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Riverbend&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://riverbendblog.blogspot.com/2006_03_01_riverbendblog_archive.html#114357319665675277&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Uncertainty...&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;i&gt;وزارة الدفاع تدعو المواطنين الى عدم الانصياع لاوامر دوريات الجيش والشرطة الليلية اذا لم تكن برفقة قو التحالف العاملة في تلك المنطقة

&quot;The Ministry of Defense requests that civilians do not comply with the orders of the army or police on nightly patrols unless they are accompanied by coalition forces working in that area.&quot;
...
But it also brings to light other worrisome issues. The situation is so bad on the security front that the top two ministries in charge of protecting Iraqi civilians cannot trust each other.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>[Scalia] I had a son on that battlefield and they were shooting at my son</p></blockquote>
<p>that battlefield - Iraq? That battlefield - self-made? Did Scalia ever think about the german mothers and fathers who had lost their sons in the Great Wars - and what HE says about &#8220;that battlefields&#8221; and &#8220;that sons&#8221; and the rights of &#8220;that people&#8221; to talk about justice?</p>
<p>first you sell justice, then you sell democracy, then you sell peace - then you sell yourself </p>
<p>or is it: first you lose peace and then you lose the ones you love&#8230;?</p>
<p><i>We continued to watch the various scenes of grief, anger, frustration and every once in a while, an almost tangible relief as someone left the morgue having not found what they dreaded most to find- eyes watery from the smell, the step slightly lighter than when they went in, having been given a temporary reprieve from the worry of claiming a loved one from the morgue…</i></p>
<p><a href="http://riverbendblog.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Riverbend</a><br />
<a href="http://riverbendblog.blogspot.com/2006_03_01_riverbendblog_archive.html#114357319665675277" rel="nofollow">Uncertainty&#8230;</a></p>
<p><i>وزارة الدفاع تدعو المواطنين الى عدم الانصياع لاوامر دوريات الجيش والشرطة الليلية اذا لم تكن برفقة قو التحالف العاملة في تلك المنطقة</p>
<p>&#8220;The Ministry of Defense requests that civilians do not comply with the orders of the army or police on nightly patrols unless they are accompanied by coalition forces working in that area.&#8221;<br />
&#8230;<br />
But it also brings to light other worrisome issues. The situation is so bad on the security front that the top two ministries in charge of protecting Iraqi civilians cannot trust each other.</i>
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		<title>by: FreeDem</title>
		<link>https://lastchancedemocracycafe.com/?p=157#comment-348</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Mar 2006 04:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>If you want to understand Scalia, or the rest of the winger wackos in power, Read Shadia Drury's &quot;Leo Strauss and the American Right&quot;. We are working from a paradiem of equals (at least in respect) as is cast in stone in the Founding Documents. These folks don't, and are offended at the possibility. 

Now that they have packed the court, and fixed the voting equipment, districts etc. so that Democrats cannot win elections, I think they are growing impatient with making nice, and even making any pretense of a free society. As they get worse I don't know whether to be more afraid of most people waking up or staying asleep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to understand Scalia, or the rest of the winger wackos in power, Read Shadia Drury&#8217;s &#8220;Leo Strauss and the American Right&#8221;. We are working from a paradiem of equals (at least in respect) as is cast in stone in the Founding Documents. These folks don&#8217;t, and are offended at the possibility. </p>
<p>Now that they have packed the court, and fixed the voting equipment, districts etc. so that Democrats cannot win elections, I think they are growing impatient with making nice, and even making any pretense of a free society. As they get worse I don&#8217;t know whether to be more afraid of most people waking up or staying asleep.
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		<title>by: susan strouss</title>
		<link>https://lastchancedemocracycafe.com/?p=157#comment-347</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Mar 2006 02:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Good essay! Somehow I had missed Scalia's last comments. What was he thinking? You may think that, but why would you ever say it, in another country? Enjoy always! As I wrote on my &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lastbastionofreason.com/2006/03/28/supreme-court-justices-still-main-reason/#more-81&quot; title=&quot;Supreme Court&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Blog&lt;/a&gt;, in 2000 and especially in 2004 the Supreme Court was the most important issue before the American people. ABB was true. Under normal times,  I would not want Kerry for President,  but we do not live in normal times. I gave all the money that I could. I wrote letters. I talked to everyone. To get Mr. Kerry elected.
This is why it is the most important issue before us once again. We have seen what kind of man Mr. Bush installs. In the next three years, one or two of them will either die, retire or as you point out be removed because of being more crazy than he already is. We can not afford to have any more of their kind on this court! 
Also, if Mr. Bush and his Cabal were to be impeached, you would not want a Republican as Speaker of the House. Ms. Pelosi would be a better person to hold the chair of the Presidency until 2009 than Mr. Hassert. 
We must have such a lead in the polls, that even this group can not steal any state. Get out the vote, give money until it hurts to elect Congressmen and Senators who will do what needs to be done! Our country depends upon this.
Call the Republicans out for every lie they tell. Don't beat around the bush (no pun intended), call it what it is: A LIE! After all, aren't they the ones who tell us they believe in the Bible? A lie is a SIN!
It is about the Supreme Court!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good essay! Somehow I had missed Scalia&#8217;s last comments. What was he thinking? You may think that, but why would you ever say it, in another country? Enjoy always! As I wrote on my <a href="http://www.lastbastionofreason.com/2006/03/28/supreme-court-justices-still-main-reason/#more-81" title="Supreme Court" rel="nofollow">Blog</a>, in 2000 and especially in 2004 the Supreme Court was the most important issue before the American people. ABB was true. Under normal times,  I would not want Kerry for President,  but we do not live in normal times. I gave all the money that I could. I wrote letters. I talked to everyone. To get Mr. Kerry elected.<br />
This is why it is the most important issue before us once again. We have seen what kind of man Mr. Bush installs. In the next three years, one or two of them will either die, retire or as you point out be removed because of being more crazy than he already is. We can not afford to have any more of their kind on this court!<br />
Also, if Mr. Bush and his Cabal were to be impeached, you would not want a Republican as Speaker of the House. Ms. Pelosi would be a better person to hold the chair of the Presidency until 2009 than Mr. Hassert.<br />
We must have such a lead in the polls, that even this group can not steal any state. Get out the vote, give money until it hurts to elect Congressmen and Senators who will do what needs to be done! Our country depends upon this.<br />
Call the Republicans out for every lie they tell. Don&#8217;t beat around the bush (no pun intended), call it what it is: A LIE! After all, aren&#8217;t they the ones who tell us they believe in the Bible? A lie is a SIN!<br />
It is about the Supreme Court!
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		<title>by: Supreme Court Justices Still Main Reason &#171; Last Bastion of Reason</title>
		<link>https://lastchancedemocracycafe.com/?p=157#comment-346</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Mar 2006 02:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] “War is war, and it has never been the case that when you captured a combatant you have to give them a jury trial in your civil courts,” he says on a tape of the talk reviewed by NEWSWEEK. “Give me a break.” Challenged by one audience member about whether the Gitmo detainees don’t have protections under the Geneva or human-rights conventions, Scalia shot back: “If he was captured by my army on a battlefield, that is where he belongs. I had a son on that battlefield and they were shooting at my son and I’m not about to give this man who was captured in a war a full jury trial. I mean it’s crazy.”{Read} [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] “War is war, and it has never been the case that when you captured a combatant you have to give them a jury trial in your civil courts,” he says on a tape of the talk reviewed by NEWSWEEK. “Give me a break.” Challenged by one audience member about whether the Gitmo detainees don’t have protections under the Geneva or human-rights conventions, Scalia shot back: “If he was captured by my army on a battlefield, that is where he belongs. I had a son on that battlefield and they were shooting at my son and I’m not about to give this man who was captured in a war a full jury trial. I mean it’s crazy.”{Read} [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: iowametal76</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2006 21:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Most people would probably be racking their brains trying to think of an NBA player named Madison and why his playing Stephon Marbury is such a big deal.  Then again, a lot of people probably don't know who Scalia is either.


Are SCOTUS Justices pretty much exempt from any kind of ethical/legal inquiries/reviews?  Who judges the judges?  If a Justice is batshit insane or senile or crooked, does the Senate have any oversight?  I guess he could be impeached, yes?  Has that ever happened before?  Or would such a thing be considerd unpatriotic and as giving aid &amp;#38; comfort to the &quot;enemy?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most people would probably be racking their brains trying to think of an NBA player named Madison and why his playing Stephon Marbury is such a big deal.  Then again, a lot of people probably don&#8217;t know who Scalia is either.</p>
<p>Are SCOTUS Justices pretty much exempt from any kind of ethical/legal inquiries/reviews?  Who judges the judges?  If a Justice is batshit insane or senile or crooked, does the Senate have any oversight?  I guess he could be impeached, yes?  Has that ever happened before?  Or would such a thing be considerd unpatriotic and as giving aid &amp; comfort to the &#8220;enemy?&#8221;
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