they can be a “pleasant person” while committing unspeakable acts. If they are capable of doing unspeakable things and disassociating themselves (as a person ) from those acts then they are bipolar at best and pathological at worst

sorry, sudden association (”committing unspeakable acts”)

Traudl Junge

Junge later said she felt great guilt for “…liking the greatest criminal ever to have lived.”
She said, “I admit, I was fascinated by Adolf Hitler. He was a pleasant boss and a fatherly friend.”

A SUBSERVIENT HERO or THE MAKING OF A MONSTER

A modest and charming young man

As time passed, Mrs. Popp found him very helpful: Hitler would help her around the house, beating carpets, bringing in the coal or filling her list at the market. The Popps found Hitler to be a modest and charming young man who kept himself and his room very clean. The Popps’ children and parents were also “very fond of the young man” and felt that Herr Adolf Hitler was a “nice” person.

But calling Newt Gingrich nice!

Calling Katherine Harris nice!

As long as you don’t know that much about the person, anyone can be fooled. What is done in private, or in front of the camera may not be the real person. These people have been trained. Good manners does not always equate to being a good person.

Firstly, when you meet someone for the first time without knowing that person, you form an initial opinion based on many things, including attitude, body language, the tone of conversation etc. First impressions may be completely wrong and you may come to dislike this person as you find out more about them. Their beliefs, principals politics etc. I guess in this instance you would say “Can’t stand that guy/girl but on first impressions they appeared quite nice.”

The opposite can sometimes be true for people you initially dont like. One of my best friends I didnt like at all when I first met her. Shows you how first impressions can be wrong.

I believe John was simply saying is that when meeting these people in person, they can seem “quite nice” So what?! Lighten up people or you run the risk of sounding like the people you are critisizing in the first place.

Give a guy a break.

John seems to think that a person can be separated from their acts…their behavior….they can be a “pleasant person” while committing unspeakable acts. If they are capable of doing unspeakable things and disassociating themselves (as a person ) from those acts then they are bipolar at best and pathological at worst….which, of course, doesn’t exactly make them a :nice: person..

Newt, Dubya, sweet Katherine and many others have learned how to manipulate people to get them to “like them” …it’s a confidence game.

Pet a snake often enough and you’re going to get bitten…it’s their nature.

hizzhoner

Reply from Steve: I usually don’t reply to comments, feeling, I guess, this real estate belongs to the reader, but . . .

Did you really think either tristero or I were seriously suggesting John should actually have kicked Harris?  Seriously, pal, go to the part of your brain marked “humor” or even “weak attempts at humor” and switch the button from “off” to “on.”

And while you’re at it, you really read this post as some sort of blistering attack on John . . . ? 

So fuckin what.

As you said, that’s merely a weapon he/they use. They’re still horrible people.
And yes, in this case, I am self-righteous.
I’m also correct.