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	<title>Comments on: Embrace the wave</title>
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		<title>by: leftcoastmobyd</title>
		<link>https://lastchancedemocracycafe.com/?p=667#comment-3406</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 19:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Here's a link for Katrina Vanden Heuvel's article:

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20061120/kvh

Lots of good ideas here, some of which may get a boost from Democrats taking control of the House and possibly the Senate. Other ideas, which threaten the duopoly, may take more action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a link for Katrina Vanden Heuvel&#8217;s article:</p>
<p><a href='http://www.thenation.com/doc/20061120/kvh' rel='nofollow'>http://www.thenation.com/doc/20061120/kvh</a></p>
<p>Lots of good ideas here, some of which may get a boost from Democrats taking control of the House and possibly the Senate. Other ideas, which threaten the duopoly, may take more action.
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		<title>by: Larkrise</title>
		<link>https://lastchancedemocracycafe.com/?p=667#comment-3400</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 08:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>We need to pass around Katrina Vanden Heuvels's article in The Nation: &quot;Bring Home Democracy,&quot; which gives ten good ideas of how to strengthen and repair our broken voting system. I have sent it out to many of my friends and family and asked them to pass it on. If the Republicans steal one more election, we cannot afford to remain silent. It is truly the end of our freedom. After listening to all of these attack ads, I have a very bitter taste in my mouth. Both Democrats and Republicans in this state have resorted to them. If one were to believe the damned ads, we are electing rogues, no matter how we vote. I wish there could be some way to stop this kind of campaigning. I am going to write a letter to the editor about it.  We have some very serious issues in this country; and the attack ads ignore them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need to pass around Katrina Vanden Heuvels&#8217;s article in The Nation: &#8220;Bring Home Democracy,&#8221; which gives ten good ideas of how to strengthen and repair our broken voting system. I have sent it out to many of my friends and family and asked them to pass it on. If the Republicans steal one more election, we cannot afford to remain silent. It is truly the end of our freedom. After listening to all of these attack ads, I have a very bitter taste in my mouth. Both Democrats and Republicans in this state have resorted to them. If one were to believe the damned ads, we are electing rogues, no matter how we vote. I wish there could be some way to stop this kind of campaigning. I am going to write a letter to the editor about it.  We have some very serious issues in this country; and the attack ads ignore them.
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		<title>by: DonnaWade</title>
		<link>https://lastchancedemocracycafe.com/?p=667#comment-3396</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 05:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Unfortunately, it doesn't look like the wave will overtake the California governor's mansion, because Angelides has run, at best, a lackluster campaign. I'm not sure even I can bring myself to vote for him, and I've only voted for one Republican in my life, for County Supervisor, and that was because he told me to my face he would support implementation of California's Medical Marijuana Law. Of course, he lied....and even supported an effort to have the US Supremes overturn the law.

My spouse believes that Maria has a balancing effect on Arnold, and keeps him from getting too &quot;out there&quot;. She's hoping that by marrying into the Kennedy clan, there will be a personal hell to pay if he tramples on their social justice values. And enough Dems will win the other statewide offices that they can hold Arnold in check if Eunice's death stare and Maria's chastity belt aren't enough.

The polls have been wrong before, but I fear not this time. Old-timer Angelides just doesn't inspire us or otherwise make us want to support him -- not in the primary (where he should have lost to Steve Westly), and certainly in the subsequent campaign. Casper Milquetoast comes to mind.

I just hate it when you have to hold your nose when voting for your own party's candidate for so high an office. Why was this the best person the party could tap? It demonstrates a dirth of talent that will only come back to bite us in the butt in future elections.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, it doesn&#8217;t look like the wave will overtake the California governor&#8217;s mansion, because Angelides has run, at best, a lackluster campaign. I&#8217;m not sure even I can bring myself to vote for him, and I&#8217;ve only voted for one Republican in my life, for County Supervisor, and that was because he told me to my face he would support implementation of California&#8217;s Medical Marijuana Law. Of course, he lied&#8230;.and even supported an effort to have the US Supremes overturn the law.</p>
<p>My spouse believes that Maria has a balancing effect on Arnold, and keeps him from getting too &#8220;out there&#8221;. She&#8217;s hoping that by marrying into the Kennedy clan, there will be a personal hell to pay if he tramples on their social justice values. And enough Dems will win the other statewide offices that they can hold Arnold in check if Eunice&#8217;s death stare and Maria&#8217;s chastity belt aren&#8217;t enough.</p>
<p>The polls have been wrong before, but I fear not this time. Old-timer Angelides just doesn&#8217;t inspire us or otherwise make us want to support him &#8212; not in the primary (where he should have lost to Steve Westly), and certainly in the subsequent campaign. Casper Milquetoast comes to mind.</p>
<p>I just hate it when you have to hold your nose when voting for your own party&#8217;s candidate for so high an office. Why was this the best person the party could tap? It demonstrates a dirth of talent that will only come back to bite us in the butt in future elections.
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		<title>by: SWConnie</title>
		<link>https://lastchancedemocracycafe.com/?p=667#comment-3395</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 05:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Glad to see Chuck is on the same page with me about this administration being held accoutable for war crimes against huminty. I pray for every night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to see Chuck is on the same page with me about this administration being held accoutable for war crimes against huminty. I pray for every night.
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		<title>by: Chuck</title>
		<link>https://lastchancedemocracycafe.com/?p=667#comment-3391</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>A bit off topic, but I think I might be changing my mind about Obama.  True we don't have a very good idea of his voting record, but we had NO idea about  Bush, or Clinton, or Carter, or Reagan either.  Not much from Kennedy, Nothing from Eisenhower.  What I want is someone with enough huevos to repeal the Patriot Act; to repeal the Military Commisions Act, to call for trials for war crimes and crimes against humanity against all current and former administration officials.  One who will shut down the Gulag.  One who will reaffirm our commitment to The Geneva Concentions.  And one who will listen to dissentin voices.

Obama may be the one.  Then again, he may not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A bit off topic, but I think I might be changing my mind about Obama.  True we don&#8217;t have a very good idea of his voting record, but we had NO idea about  Bush, or Clinton, or Carter, or Reagan either.  Not much from Kennedy, Nothing from Eisenhower.  What I want is someone with enough huevos to repeal the Patriot Act; to repeal the Military Commisions Act, to call for trials for war crimes and crimes against humanity against all current and former administration officials.  One who will shut down the Gulag.  One who will reaffirm our commitment to The Geneva Concentions.  And one who will listen to dissentin voices.</p>
<p>Obama may be the one.  Then again, he may not.
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		<title>by: Again</title>
		<link>https://lastchancedemocracycafe.com/?p=667#comment-3383</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 07:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But I can’t see overconfidence as a realistic worry here&lt;/blockquote&gt;

maybe not &quot;overconfidence&quot;, but there is this nagging voice in my mind that keeps asking me, if men able to bend  the law to give unrestrained power to one of themselves, to torture and make wars just for fun, if men able to buy the courts of justice and change the FourthEstate into &quot;ForTheState&quot;, if men so corrupt that they pour the stream of taxes into their own pockets - if men like that can dare to lose power 

anyway - the moment of truth is coming soon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But I can’t see overconfidence as a realistic worry here</p></blockquote>
<p>maybe not &#8220;overconfidence&#8221;, but there is this nagging voice in my mind that keeps asking me, if men able to bend  the law to give unrestrained power to one of themselves, to torture and make wars just for fun, if men able to buy the courts of justice and change the FourthEstate into &#8220;ForTheState&#8221;, if men so corrupt that they pour the stream of taxes into their own pockets - if men like that can dare to lose power </p>
<p>anyway - the moment of truth is coming soon
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